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Spendius's avatar

A shared quality between golden age America and Greece(and Rome, for that matter) is a military meta that prioritized mobilizing large numbers of heavy infantry combined with a level of state capacity that was unequal to the task of maintaining a permanent professional force on that scale. The aristocracy in this situation had to make some concessions to the ordinary citizens who formed the backbone of the army and navy if they wanted to win wars. When state capacity reached the point where a citizen militia is no longer needed, citizens' rights and autonomy were rapidly eroded.

Eras where the meta is prohibitively expensive tech such as cavalry, chariots, or air power favor aristocrats and plutocrats in those societies where state capacity is lacking, so you get feudalism or something like it instead of citizen republics.

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Richard Hanania's avatar

“A combination of atomization, urbanization, and political nationalization mean the average American’s control over their own government is lower than ever. But, much like with the fraudulently autonomous poleis of Hellenistic Greece, the ghost has (mostly) gone out of American self-government. A combination of atomization, urbanization, and political nationalization mean the average American’s control over their own government is lower than ever. Americans see bad laws, bad ideas, bad policies, and bad social trends all over the place, but when any change of course requires taking control of a country of 340 million, what hope is there?”

One area where Americans do govern themselves is zoning, and they have messed it up pretty badly. One can think of other examples.

I think public choice theory is a better way to understand what makes good governance than morality tales. And I don’t see the evidence that local control necessarily leads to better outcomes. If the point is perceptions of control, then maybe we should give people that rather than the real thing.

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