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Doctor Hammer's avatar

Another great review and discussion! I would add that Adam Smith makes much the same case as McWhorter here regarding the simplification of language by adult learners dropping the tricky bits in Smith's "Considerations Concerning the First Formation of Languages." Effectively his argument is that more isolated nations can create highly detailed and complex language systems because everyone learns them early so super precise and accurate grammar is fine, but with societies that interact frequently or otherwise mix with outsiders the rules of grammar begin to simplify down to what everyone can handle. It is part mixing and borrowing and part normalization of simpler forms to normalize the language among many people who can't get all the fine points done right.

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"But anyone learning Latin, or German, or Russian — probably the languages with case markings most commonly studied by English-speakers — has to contend with a handful of grammatical cases. And then, of course, there’s Hungarian."

This actually does not make much difference. To stick a "to" in front of a word and call it a preposition or to stick -ba at the end of the word and call it an allative grammatical case, neither is more complicated than the other. If measured in effort to learn or effort to use.

Now the lack of grammatical gender is indeed an important thing, as these features are useless, they convey no information. Perhaps they used to, der Rock for skirt is masculine because it used to mean a kind of robe or cloak for men. But it means nothing at all that die Kapitalismus and die Sozialismus are both female.

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