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hnau's avatar

I'm so mad at the link in footnote 5. And I didn't even click on it.

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I made this comment originally on another book review of the Everett Pirahã book (lightly edited):

Gwern has a great book review on this one: https://gwern.net/review/book#dont-sleep-there-are-snakes-everett-2008. The ending of Gwern's review brings up probably the best theory I have read to explain the Pirahã, although I would put it more bluntly: maybe they are just extremely inbred and very dumb. They can't plan for the future the way some children cannot plan for the future. They cannot learn how to count to ten, because that is too complicated for them.

The *New Yorker* article (cited by Gwern and found here https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2007/04/16/the-interpreter-2) also implies that the Pirahã are really dumb. An evolutionary biologist, William Tecumseh Fitch (yes, he is a direct descendant of the American Civil War general), traveled down there to test the Pirahã, and he had a lot of problems getting them to pass basic grammar test which apparently even all monkeys tested could pass. According to the article, Fitch eventually found one sixteen-year-old who could pass the test. I cannot figure out from Fitch's Google Scholar page where he wrote up these results--maybe they're buried somewhere.

Getting genetic samples of the Pirahã would clarify how inbred they are, and it would at least partly let us guess their genetic IQ, insofar as we can use one of those fancy polygenic scores for educational attainment/cognitive ability to estimate it. I also would like to see someone replicate Everett's work (Margaret Mead's fieldwork did not replicate). Even the *New Yorker* journalist had to rely on Everett's translations.

Per Wikipedia, "[Everett] says that he was having serious doubts by 1982 and had abandoned all faith by 1985." And wouldn't you know it, he completed his masters thesis in 1980 and PhD in 1983 in linguistics under a Brazilian-French advisor. His thesis provided "a detailed detailed Chomskyan analysis of Pirahã." Anyways, it sounds like he begins to reject his faith as a Brazilian graduate student in a (presumably) atheistic/secular atmosphere.

Incredibly, Everett is an avowed defender of the blank state.

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